GOI: From Crooks and Liars:
In his debate last night with Wesley Clark, Bill said this to prove his point:
Clark: And let me explain something. You go all the way up the chain of command --
O'Reilly: General! You need to look at the Malmedy massacre in World War Two, and the 82nd Airborne who did it!
That is a flat out lie. (thanks to (Mccarthy.vg ) It was the Nazi soldiers that committed the massacre on US troops and not the 82nd Airborn on the Germans. Bill you just used false information to defame our own troops. How could you sink to a low like that just to try and prove a point in a debate. It took two minutes to discover your falsehood. I think you owe an apology to our military and every veteran who fought in WWII. How you could mix up an atrocity like that is beyond me and worst yet paint our own soldiers as being the perpetrators of one of the worst war crimes in WWII. Did you just pull it out of your---?
GOI: And as usual "Fake News" (Oops, I mean FOX News) edited the transcript:
Fox News Trancript
O'REILLY: General, you need to look at the Malmady (ph) massacre in World War II and the 82nd Airborne.
Crooks and Liar's Transcript:
Clark: And let me explain something. You go all the way up the chain of command --
O'Reilly: General! You need to look at the Malmedy massacre in World War Two, and the 82nd Airborne who did it!
Was this an attempt to remove O'Reilly's assertion that US troops were at fault?
GOI: Even worse, this is not the first time O'Liely has done this. Awhile back he was interviewing General Wes Clarke (again) about the Abu Ghraib incident during which he brought up the Malmedy massacre for the first time. And (and as with this newest time) he disgustingly claimed that the U.S. soldiers had slaughtered the Nazi soldiers. He is shameful beyond words. A national, nay a worldly disgrace.
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3 comments:
This story may need some clarification.
I wonder if O'Reilly was thinking of the Malmedy-massacre trial, which was an American disgrace.
I think O'Reilly is refuting Clark's assertion that nothing in WWII went all the way up the chain of command. And O'Reilly's point, then, is that torturing the German prisons, held for trial, was done by the American command after WWII.
From the transcript, Clark seemed to have understood O'Reilly's point.
But O'Reilly's overarching point is no less wrong. O'Reilly doesn't seem to want America to have a higher standard of conduct than other nations, whereas Clark wants a high standard, even in the fog of war.
I don't know what I think about all this. I kind of hate making war civilized because that makes war more frequent.
Here's a Time Magazine story, dated 1949, about the Malmedy-massacre trial.
I am now pretty sure this was what O'Reilly was referring to, and the 82 Airborne high command which was directly responsible for torturing the German prisoners.
Tom:
I agree with you when you said:
"But O'Reilly's overarching point is no less wrong. O'Reilly doesn't seem to want America to have a higher standard of conduct than other nations, whereas Clark wants a high standard, even in the fog of war."
That, in the end is the main horror of his arguement.
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